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may 4, 2006

i'm dying here!

Okay, well first my host's server is having a little problem, so the blog might be mostly dead for a while. But just in case you can read this...

I tried my hand at using acid dyes! Pardon the lack of pictures, but I had giant gloves and a face mask on so wasn't really able to pick up the camera during the process. I didn't want to spend the time winding up a striping skein for my very first outing with acid dyes, so I thought I'd try hand-painting. I looked for some instruction online as to how much dye solution to make, found very few really helpful numbers, and then went ahead and did my best on my own. It did not go well.


there were supposed to be 3 colors, including white

Don't know if my skein was too wet or my dye solution too thin or what, but it no workie for me. Everything ran together into the brown poopy mess above. Yuck! I think I'm going to stick to immersion dyeing.

And just so my dye-swap pal doesn't get the wrong idea and think that poopy brown is like my favorite color, let me say here that my favorite colors are blues (natch), reds, pinks, oranges, and white. And I really prefer bright, rich solids and stripes to variegateds. So no poopy brown, please. Cause I've already got a skein of that!

posted by alison at 10:25 am | in dye job
Comments

Think of it as chocolate cherry! I see some red/pink in there!

Posted by: Tania at May 4, 2006 10:34 AM

oh no! i like the above suggestion of chocolate covered cherry. think positive.

Posted by: erin at May 4, 2006 10:41 AM

But poopy brown is so funny!!

Posted by: Bonney at May 4, 2006 10:42 AM

Awww. I agree, chocolate cherry. It should be interesting to see how it knits up though.

Posted by: miftik at May 4, 2006 10:48 AM

You know it might look totally different skein'd up and knit up. *uncomfortable silence*

Posted by: Jennifer at May 4, 2006 10:59 AM

I made a scarf once in those same colors... Not my cup of tea, but I had the yarn lying around. I called it "wine and chocolate" and it sold instantly!

Posted by: bfmomma at May 4, 2006 11:02 AM

ummm...these are NOT my colors so please don't "gift" this yarn to me. i've seen enought poopy brown to last a lifetime (courtesy of ms. scout)...in fact, i think i might have been called poopy brown on a grade school playground but blocked it out of my memory :)

Posted by: lisa b at May 4, 2006 11:03 AM

Obviously I can read this, too! Your skein looks good for something November-ish, maybe 'barberry' since that's how my bush looks when it's lost its leaves but the birds haven't eaten all the berries yet!

Posted by: Nancy at May 4, 2006 11:04 AM

hiLARious. oh well. good luck with the next skein!

Posted by: Daphne at May 4, 2006 11:11 AM

Am I the only one who looked at that and went.. OOhhhh yam yam, I _love_ that!!
You should send it to me and share the poopy brown love :-P

Honestly, I think there must be others than I who would love that yarn deeply.

Lene in Germany

Posted by: Lene at May 4, 2006 11:11 AM

Overdyeing can make amazing changes. Enough to make you look forward to mis-takes.

Posted by: Melissa at May 4, 2006 11:14 AM

Okay on poopy brown...I'll make sure I don't do that for you....LOL!

Posted by: Dye-O-Rama Buddy at May 4, 2006 11:15 AM

I like the colors too :)

Posted by: Michelle at May 4, 2006 11:17 AM

Oh....I'm so sorry to hear about your frustration. If it's any comfort when I saw your yarn I thought of chocolate covered cherries and not what you said. Hug.

Posted by: wendy at May 4, 2006 11:23 AM

Did you use your One Shot kit for it? Prochemical has instructions for their One shot:

http://www.prochemical.com/directions/OneShot.htm

It has instructions for both immersion and for rainbow. They also have instructions for all of their dyes on the website. I love rainbow dyeing and you do have to make sure that as much of the water is wrung out before dyeing. Think of it like as much water as you take out is how much dye the yarn will take in. Also, it won't run as much. Also try spacing the colors out a little as they will want to spread, so if you give them a little space then they will have room to spread out. I once saw this wonderful dyer that uses mainly primaries so that when it spreads the overlap gives the secondaries. She had some fantastic combinations that I just drooled over. One more thing is try using just 2 colors. I have had some wonderful successes with mixing streaks of yellow and pink to make fire or sunset, or blue and yellow to make "sea" colors. 2 colors at least guarantees that you won't get brown.

Posted by: Lavendersheep at May 4, 2006 11:34 AM

Maybe it's awful in person, but really, it doesn't look so bad to me. The melony, coraly color will probably jump right out at you when you knit it up. And you know that the Jaywalker pattern is magic, and makes any yarn look fantastic, right?

Can you overdye?

Posted by: Beth S. at May 4, 2006 11:44 AM

I acually like those colors, of course I'm alo a fan of brown and pink togeather.
Call me nuts, I would buy this yarn, willingly!

Posted by: Hayley at May 4, 2006 11:51 AM

I don't think it's so bad, and a hat or handbag would look quite funky with those colours. At least you are going for it!

Posted by: mary13 at May 4, 2006 12:13 PM

The downtime problem has been resolved!

Posted by: shannon at May 4, 2006 12:13 PM

Thanks for the info, Shannon. Hooray for tech guys! (Now I wonder if they can help me with handpainted acid dyeing?)

Posted by: alison at May 4, 2006 12:22 PM

Somewhere in the world is someone who would love to have poopie brown yarn...I just don't know them!

Posted by: Lynette at May 4, 2006 12:36 PM

Hey, I kind of like the poopy browns and reds. I bet it will knit up really nice. I'm sure that if you offered it up in a contest it would draw lots of entries! ...or you could bring it to the Knitsmiths Swap this weekend!

Posted by: Johanna at May 4, 2006 1:04 PM

Let it be said that your web host's problems should now be resolved (so say the Gods of T1 Wires).

Posted by: Jason at May 4, 2006 1:30 PM

You never know--it might knit into something very sophisticated and unique!

Posted by: katie at May 4, 2006 1:33 PM

Don't give up on it yet, Alison! Nothing's keeping you from re-dyeing that with a more saturated and darker color, or for example a red that would make the now red part darker and the brown a nice brick red. It wouldn't be what you were shooting for at first, but that's kind of how dying goes. At least for us beginners. ;) But I think you can still save the yarn. And you know, the ultimate solution after re-dying a bunch of times is to go black...

Posted by: Lotta at May 4, 2006 2:53 PM

Yuck? I love that yarn! Brown and red together are one of my favorite combos! Don't disparage until it's knit up...I'm thinking it will be lovely.

Posted by: Ann at May 4, 2006 3:45 PM

You need to wring out most of the water from your prewetted skein first, then just use bits of diluted dye - the goal is to not get things too wet. Things will bleed if your skein is too wet or is dry.

Posted by: Chris at May 4, 2006 3:58 PM

Thanks for the tip, Chris. I was thinking that had to be the problem. The instructions say to squeeze out excess water, but I wasn't clear on how vigliant I needed to be with the squeezing out.

And thanks for the link Lavendersheep! I didn't realize that "rainbow dyeing" was the same as handpainting. Those instructions look great. I didn't use the one-shot dyes to start, just the washfast acid dyes. But now I have some, so maybe I'll try them next.

Posted by: alison at May 4, 2006 4:12 PM

I love those colors! I think they're beautiful!

Posted by: Leyna at May 4, 2006 4:15 PM

you could immerse the yarn and overdye with red or something i bet it would turn out nice. i found when using koolaid, you need about 20 packs per 100 grams to get a nice rich color. i know you're using acid dyes just try using way more than seems necessary, and you can always overdye again if it doesn't turn out dark enough

Posted by: lelsey at May 4, 2006 4:53 PM

We had a dyeing/painting workshop at spinnning class about half a year ago. What we did was thicken the dye slightly by adding to it some ammonia and wall paper glue (the non-toxic sort)- I think it's called manutex(??). It does smell a little and i dont know the exact proportions, but it worked!

Posted by: celia at May 4, 2006 5:14 PM

Alison, if you can wait until Monday, I will be home and I can give you some concrete numbes. If not, check my and Claudia's comments to Stasias post here and consider this book (sorry for the ebay link but couldn't find a good photo of it anywhere else).

Posted by: Angela at May 4, 2006 7:11 PM

Poopy brown is not my thing either, but I bet that will be quite pretty when it is knit up.

Posted by: Kris at May 4, 2006 8:08 PM

Actually, I like that color combo, and I don't think it really looks all that bad.

Posted by: Kym at May 4, 2006 8:37 PM

I did a lot of dying back in artschool and then dyed silk scarves and wool. If you absolutely don't like the colours that you've gotten and don't think that overdying will get you results that you like, try to "discharge" the yarn. It's like bleaching it, but of course not with bleach as that would just disolve the 100% wool. There is a product called Thiox that works great. You don't get back to pure white, but white enough to start over.

http://www.prochemical.com/directions/Thiox.htm

Let us know how you fare...

Posted by: monika at May 4, 2006 9:20 PM

I bought a red and brown skein at christmas time that was named "Rudolph"

Posted by: Wendi at May 4, 2006 9:54 PM

If you presoak your yarn, then put it in the washer on the spin cycle, it will come out slightly damp and not be dripping alot pre-dyeing. Then when you add the dye press the skein so that it absorbs most of the dye before adding another color. Before you heat set the skein, you can blot it with some paper towels to absorb any extra dye that might run into other colors. HTH!

Posted by: Diane D. at May 5, 2006 9:32 AM

It's a mocha sunday--with a cherry on top!

Posted by: alliesw at May 5, 2006 1:49 PM

Try Jacquard dyes and dye bottles with very narrow, long tips to focus the dye direction. Also, did you use a drop or two of liquid dishwashing detergent in the pre-soak? That acts as a surfacant and allows the yarn to absorb more of the dye.

Very nice first attempt!

Posted by: Sandra at May 8, 2006 10:38 AM




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