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may 22, 2007

a barrel of monkeys and a case of stripes

Since I've almost finished my sock pal's first sock, I figure it's high time I start planning my next pair of socks! You see, once I feel like a pattern is going to work out, I pretty much spend all my remaining knitting time daydreaming about the next project. Now, for a sweater, I'll need to have several pieces finished before I feel confident about the project being a success. But for a sock, just past the heel of sock one is usually plenty. So even though I've still got a sock and a half left to knit on the embossed leaves, in my mind I've moved on to monkey.

I really want to make a pair of monkeys (who doesn't?!) and so went poking through the yarn stash for some appropriate yarn. After looking closely at my sock yarn stash, I find I have a ton of self-striping sock yarns but very few solids or variegateds, which I think would work best with this pattern. I did find this though. Think it'll make nice monkeys?

That still leaves me with the question of what to do with all that striping yarn, like this little fave, Lorna's Laces "Knit Happens" colorway.

I bought all this striping yarn for stockinette socks. Don't get me wrong, I still love stockinette socks, but aren't there some patterned socks out there that will work really well with striping yarn? The only thing that comes to my mind is Jaywalkers, which I fear may knit up too snug for my leg/ankle girth, although if you experts out there say otherwise, I can give 'em a try. But does anyone know of other patterns? What's a stripe-lover to do?

posted by alison at 9:36 am | in sockapalooza 4
Comments

Mermaid socks (Lucy Neatby's Cool Socks, Warm Feet) are supposed to be good for striping yarns. That's what I'm planning to use for some of my more 'interesting' LL colorways!

Posted by: Diana at May 22, 2007 9:55 AM

I second the Neatby book, it's a real gem! Also, I was planning to make this really cool sideways sock for my pal (if my yarn ever arrives, harumph...)

http://www.ptyarn.com/sidewaysopal.html

Posted by: Cirilia at May 22, 2007 10:00 AM

Hey, Alison -- I love the Chevron sock pattern in Sensational Knitted Socks for self striping yarn. JayWalker-ish but none of the fit issues. Sorry I missed Sockapalooza 4 this year -- untimely vacation placement!

Posted by: Annie at May 22, 2007 10:01 AM

Broadripple socks from Knitty are great for self-striping. I've knit two pairs!

Posted by: Faith at May 22, 2007 10:02 AM

I can't help on the pattern front but can say that both yarns pictures are fantastic! I love the way Regia stripes up, and I'm working on LL right now for my sockpal. Good luck finding a pattern...I know there are tons out there...just have to find the right one :-)

Posted by: alotta.knittin at May 22, 2007 10:04 AM

I have knit 2 pairs of Monkeys, I think the yarn you have chosen will be great for them!

Posted by: Dawn at May 22, 2007 10:04 AM

You can make Jaywalkers bigger by inserting more stitches in between the zig-zags. I did it with mine--eight instead of seven (or was it nine instead of eight?) Anyway, it's easy.

The only other thing that comes to mind for self-striping sock yarn is to do a feather-and-fan pattern, a la WendyKnits.

Posted by: Kat at May 22, 2007 10:07 AM

Charlene Schurch's Sensational socks includes a chevron patterned sock with purls between the chevrons. It gives the sock more stretch. Also, the narrower chevrons are easier to wear than the broad bands of the jaywalkers.

Posted by: LaurieM at May 22, 2007 10:13 AM

Hi,

I just knit a pair of socks out of that exact yarn! (I used the Broadripple pattern).

Another pattern that's good for striping yarn is the RPM pattern from knitty. (might be not sooo good for yarns with jacquard sections in it).

Posted by: Lara at May 22, 2007 10:13 AM

I found Jaywalkers to be a little too tight and inflexible in the leg -- kind of like an ankle girdle. I wear them least of all my socks. I do like Grumperina's Roza's socks from the last Interweave though -- and I knit them up in LL's Sassy Stripe. I think any of the ribbed socks from Knitting Vintage Socks work well with the LL stripe too (which has very very short stripe segments. I don't even know if I'd call it a true striping yarn).

Posted by: elizaboothy at May 22, 2007 10:16 AM

Yup, that's right about jaywalkers. But the mermaid socks from Lucy Neatbys "cool socks warm feet" look fabulous in self striping yarn. Definately check those out!

Posted by: Julia at May 22, 2007 10:20 AM

Another good pattern for self-stiping is the Rainbow Ripple sock found here: http://www.ptyarn.com/rainbowripple.html The picture on the webpage doesn't show up very well but it is a very pretty ripple pattern.

Posted by: Julie at May 22, 2007 10:24 AM

I suggest the Broadripples and various chevron patterns (some in the Schurch book mentioned). I also like a basic ribbed sock in a striped colorway, esp with solid colored heels/toes/ribbing!

Posted by: Danielle at May 22, 2007 10:24 AM

Gah! I've been looking for that regia colorway everywhere. It must have been popular because it's all gone. :( I think monkeys might look okay with striping. It depends on how big the stripes are too.

Posted by: Elinor at May 22, 2007 10:26 AM

are you part of Sockamania? browsing thru the blog and seeing everyone's pics of the current pattern, it looks like it'd do the chevron thing nicely with stripey yarns.

Posted by: Christy at May 22, 2007 10:35 AM

Check out sockbug's blog http://sockbug.blog-city.com/). She has some nice patterns that should look good in self striping yarn. I have some LL in Georgetown that is going to be River Rapids socks when I finish 1) the Panda cotton socks I need for summer, 2) shrug for DD for her best friend;s wedding in late July (she just asked me yesterday - no pattern or yarn selected yet - she can't find time to knit it herself with baby M), 3) dinosaurs sweaters for baby M's 2 big brothers (about a third of the back is done on the first one).

Posted by: Donna at May 22, 2007 10:41 AM

I usually knit socks on size one needles (eight stitches to the inch) and just substituted size two for the zig zag part of the Jaywalkers. On the foot I used twos for the instep and ones for the sole. They are my favorite sock to wear as they stay up easily. One pair has a picot edge and the others (3) have a 2X2 rib. I need to get more self striping yarn as I'm itching to start the next pair. Monkey is on my list for some cream Lorna's that I want to try my hand at dyeing.

Posted by: Mary at May 22, 2007 10:50 AM

The knit happens isn't a true stripe in my opinion. The stripes are about 1.5 rounds wide so they may work fot the monkey socks. You might just want to try. (I made a pair of stockinette socks with the LL last year and I love them but the stripes did disapoint a little. I was hoping that they would be wider.)

Posted by: MommyknitsJen at May 22, 2007 10:59 AM

I think gradually striping yarn (trekking, mega boots stretch) look great in lace or cable patterns. I don't know how thinner self-striping yarn would look...but I sure would be curious to find out! I agree with all of the suggestions above--any type of a "chevron" pattern will really pop with the stripes.

Posted by: sb at May 22, 2007 11:00 AM

Hey, I know that reference! Little Man discovered A Bad Case of Stripes at pre-school last week. He was so distraught to leave the book at pre-school over the weekend that we tried to find it at the local library. No luck, especially since Little Man (being very nearly 4) gave a vague description of the book, so we were flying solo. But the children's librarian saved the day, and made Little Man very very happy. Great message, but in my opinion, the pictures are kinda creepy. Kids have weird opinions, huh?
Hope all is well with the boys and the wee babe.

Posted by: The Feminist Mafia at May 22, 2007 11:06 AM

I went up a needle size to #2's on the jaywalker socks and mine are working out pretty well on my "muscular" legs!

Posted by: peggy at May 22, 2007 11:31 AM

Others have mentioned Charlene Schurch's Sensational Knitted Socks as a good source for striping yarn. The Chevron came to mind first for me. I also think Feather and Fan can look nice in stripes.

Posted by: Sarah at May 22, 2007 11:37 AM

I've made a couple of pairs of Broadripples with striping yarn. This pattern also looks kinda nice with stripes: http://www.ptyarn.com/hanaumabay.html

I guess any sort of chevron or feather and fan pattern would look nice.

Posted by: Sheri at May 22, 2007 11:44 AM

Above, all good suggestions. May I add Hello Yarn's Cable Twist Socks (http://www.helloyarn.com/cabletwistsocks.htm) or Cider Moon's Saucy socks with the Eye of Partridge heel (http://www.cidermoon.com/cm0127.html).

Happy knitting!

Posted by: Karen B. at May 22, 2007 12:07 PM

Try tropicana from Magknits. I missed out on getting 'Knit Happens' colorway. Boo Hoo. Had a hand dyer make me something in that color but the yarn isn't as soft as LL.

Posted by: Emmie at May 22, 2007 12:11 PM

I don't like the way Broadripples look in self striping. I'd do the Jaywalkers and go up a needle size, at least for the leg.

Posted by: Ellen at May 22, 2007 12:12 PM

I fifth, or whatever, the chevron pattern from Sensational Knitted Socks. Looks great with striping yarns! Also check out the "Carolina" pattern from Socktopia...great for stripes!

Posted by: Dragonfly Judy at May 22, 2007 12:12 PM

I've knit the feather and fan pattern in Knitters 'Socks, Socks, Socks' with striping yarn and it looks pretty good.

Posted by: staci at May 22, 2007 12:21 PM

Go for the Jaywalkers. Grumperina has posted instructions for making larger Jaywalkers. They were a blast to knit.

Posted by: Kelly at May 22, 2007 12:30 PM

Broadripple on Knitty is a lovely chevron that works great with self-striping.

Posted by: Katherine Allred at May 22, 2007 12:32 PM

Oh, I wish I had a good suggestion for you on self-striping yarn, I have been struggling with this myself. I don't like feather and fan or ripple, myself, could not get fit in Mermaid, Jaywalkers or SKS chevron pattern -- I ended up making a stockinette sock with a garter rib leg (the garter rib results from knitting every stitch when the color is different from the round below, and otherwise doing K2, P2). My yarn had stripes a little over 2 rounds, which are too skinny for my taste. If I were doing it over (which I'm not) I might be crazy enough to use 2 skeins at once and make wider stripes. Billions of ends and all.

Posted by: AuntieAnn at May 22, 2007 12:50 PM

You could make some basic cable socks and have the cable crossing either in the middle of the colors or at each color change. you could also do plain stockinette and then do slip stitch faux fair isle at the color changes.

Posted by: Melissa at May 22, 2007 1:24 PM

I love my Jaywalkers, though you should be sure to knit them on 2's because the ones knit on 1's are SOOOO snug.
Another nice striping pattern is another Grumperina pattern, Roza's socks from the Spril IK this year. they are nice, stretchy and super easy to remember. I am making a pair in black, but I have seen them in stripes and they look smashing. :)

Posted by: Courtney at May 22, 2007 1:39 PM

I agree with all of the Broadripple fans out there -- the stripes do get kind of wonky when you do the heel flap, but I still love the finished product!!

Posted by: Tonya at May 22, 2007 2:06 PM

I agree with all of the Broadripple fans out there -- the stripes do get kind of wonky when you do the heel flap, but I still love the finished product!!

Posted by: Tonya at May 22, 2007 2:06 PM

Pretty patterns that I think would look good in self-striping sock yarn are:

* Parallel Socks (Wildhorse Farm Designs)
* Isosceles Socks (also Wildhorse)
* Circle of Friendship socks (HeartStrings FiberArts)

The first two patterns can be found on the Loopy Ewe's website. The third can be bought from HeartStrings FiberArts website.

Posted by: Mary at May 22, 2007 2:10 PM

I have to second broadripple. River rapids by sockbug are great too for self stripers. The other one that I love are the bubble wrap ones as well. They produce a reallly fun sock.

Posted by: Laura at May 22, 2007 2:12 PM

Gorgeous, gorgeous coloways! They are a joy to look at.

Posted by: Sarah-Hope at May 22, 2007 3:07 PM

Hi Alison ... I'm knitting the Diagonal Rib Socks from Interweave's Favorite Socks book. Can't remember if that's the exact title or who it is knit by, but it's a very easy sock to knit. I'm almost finished with the leg (started it last Sunday), and am knitting it in Austermann Stepp yarn - very beautiful self-striping yarn that even puts aloe vera and jojoba oil into your hands. I highly recommend this pattern for self-striping yarns (and I recommend the yarn, too :)

Posted by: Alicia at May 22, 2007 3:13 PM

i did broadripple (knitty) and mermaid (lucy neatby) with both of my self-striping lorna's

Posted by: lisa b at May 22, 2007 4:23 PM

If you like the look of Jaywalkers but want something with more stretch, try the Peak Experience socks by Betsy Lee McCarthy from Fiber Trends. I've made them over and over and over again, like some people do with Jaywalkers, and I love the pattern, especially since they fit my fat calves quite nicely. :)

Posted by: Liz at May 22, 2007 5:06 PM

I have nothing to add to the self-striping sock pattern debate but my question is tangentially related. How do you tell the difference visually between a skein of variegated and a skein of self-striping? Yes, my new-knitterness is showing but if it doesn't say striping on the label, I cannot tell.

Posted by: Harper at May 22, 2007 5:33 PM

Oooooh, I really like those Carolina socks!

Posted by: alison at May 22, 2007 5:36 PM

My first thought for you was the Mermaid Socks, as well. I'm planning on using that pattern for my Sockapalooza socks, using striping yarn.

However, like AuntieAnn, I've had some troubles with fit on my practice sock. I haven't cast on for my sock pal yet, but I'm a bit concerned about getting the right fit.

Also, not all yarns will look just right with Mermaid. If the stripe repeat is too short or too long, you won't get the diamond shapes that really set that pattern off. But for the right yarn, that fishtail stitch is absolutely amazing!

Posted by: Amy at May 22, 2007 5:52 PM

I have both of those yarns, and no clue on either what sock patterns I will use. Which makes me extra excited to see what you come up with first! (tee hee)

Although it doesn't offer a lot of visual change, I'm a big fan of the Thuja pattern (knitty.com) for striping socks. Its very calming.

Although I will give a word of warning that one of my knitgrrls, Good Girl Purl of the PurlingPs, knit up her Knit Happens colorway, and the stripes were very narrow. Like one row per color.

Posted by: Nanc at May 22, 2007 6:44 PM

I made the Jaywalkers with self-striping Regia yarn. I have big feet (10 1/2) and made the bigger size and they fit very well. They seemed to take very long to knit but after I wore them they soon became one of my favorite pair of socks.

Posted by: Elisabeth at May 22, 2007 7:32 PM

I hope you post something with all of these great suggestions. I've been going through the same thing. I have a pile of self striping and just don't want to do a plan stockinette or ribbed sock.

Please, please?!

Posted by: knitty-kat at May 22, 2007 7:42 PM

oooh, I was going to say Jaywalkers as well...did you see that there is a larger size on Grumperina's blog? p.s. I have that brightly colored Regia in my stash too, I LOVE it!! ;)

Posted by: tania at May 22, 2007 9:05 PM

I just finished up some Dublin Bay socks with some lovely stripy Vesper yarn.

Posted by: Jenn at May 22, 2007 9:54 PM

Is a great pattern not just stockinette

Posted by: Mandy at May 22, 2007 10:26 PM

Good suggestion, Mandy. I really like that pattern, very subtley argyley. Cool!

Posted by: ALISON at May 22, 2007 10:49 PM

Another possibility is See-Saw Socks by Kim Brody Salazar [Wiseneedle] (pattern from Knit-Net archives, does cost - Canadian on-line magazine - at least, I think I have that correct - I found it by googling originally but don't have it in front of me at the moment. I think it was about $4 or 5 US about 2 or 3 years ago)

Posted by: Jean at May 22, 2007 10:54 PM

I was hoping to watch the suggestions come in and get inspired for a pair of non lacy socks to make with some cascade sassy stripe. I'll have to check these suggestions out.

Posted by: erin at May 23, 2007 12:18 AM

Falling Leaves, or Straight Laced on knitt.com, or Lacy Scallops on Sockbug might work with self striping yarn.

Posted by: Ruth at May 23, 2007 6:55 AM

http://scarlettknits.livejournal.com/796.html

I just finished the lacy mock cable socks in a variegated, but the original pattern uses a self striping with a narrow repeat. Very comfy socks!

Posted by: Jennifer at May 23, 2007 7:08 AM

For those looking for Regia Canadian Color Calgary - this UK store has it. http://www.cnyttanpatterns.co.uk/erol.html#8035X13592

Posted by: Ruth at May 23, 2007 7:14 AM

The Feather and Fan socks from Socks, Socks, Socks works very well with striping yarns.

Posted by: Janis at May 23, 2007 10:11 AM

I bought my Knit Happens LL at Knit Happens (to me, it's a LYS). I started toe-up socks in it, thinking and hoping it would stripe.

It didn't. My particular skeins gave me short (like 2-3 inch) blips of color that didn't resolve into any sort of stripe or spiral. I abandoned and frogged that attempt (I was doing lace on the insteps) and will probably just go with a simple stockinette for them.

I wear a ladies' size 10.5 and have high insteps. I made Jaywalkers in the larger size on Knit Picks size 1 dpns in Cherry Tree Hill Supersock. They fit perfectly with absolutely no pattern adjustments at all. The pattern does seem to eat yarn faster than most.

If you're still worried, someone on the 'net has developed a larger size/adjustable size amendment to the Jaywalker pattern. Sorry, can't find the link right now, but it shouldn't be too hard to Google.

Posted by: Melissa at May 23, 2007 2:18 PM

I have big feet (10 or so) and decent calves. I knit the larger Jaywalker pattern and they fit fine. They're scary at first because you can't get them over your heel until you pull hard, but once the heel itself is turned, they're easier to try on. It's a bit of luck, I suppose, waiting that long, but mine turned out great. I also knit the larger size for my boyfriend, and they fit him fine. Otherwise, I've heard that Cookie A's Thelonious works nicely with stripes and variegations as well as solids. You could look at some of her patterns.

Posted by: Elinor at May 23, 2007 6:38 PM

If you don't like the way that strips and the BroadRipple pattern go together - sub out a short row garter stitch heel (and toe). See the "Broadripple Hybrids" on my blog. There are two pairs - the ones I did as a Sock Savior last Sockapalooza and the ones I made for myself - finished in Feb of this year.

Great pattern in stripes! My Cascade Fixation didn't stripe enough for me, so I knit alternating color and solid round for 'skinney stripes'. My favorite summer socks to date!

Posted by: Karla (threadbndr) at May 23, 2007 8:24 PM

Sock patterns that wave or ripple usually work great with variegated yarns. Cables are often lost in the dye pattern, and lace - well it depends. Good luck!

Posted by: mathiemom at May 23, 2007 9:22 PM

The Quill Lace pattern from Knitty was a lot of fun and may work out with striping yarn. It is a REALLY fun pattern too!

Never forget the good 'ole Broadripples too. Some kind of feather and fan would be fun.

Posted by: Laurie at May 25, 2007 6:17 PM




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